is AOC implying that gun control would've stopped this murder? it was a bolt action hunting rifle.... literally been shooting one since I was 13. Everyone calling it a high powered rifle is spreading misinformation. I mean I guess relative to an AR15 it's high powered, but traditionally they'd call it a full size rifle cartridge.
I'm not gun guy myself, but never understood how the rifle could be high or low power, because the bullet doesn't magically get extra push from the rifle, either all the force is in the shell when it is fired or it's not.
There are most definitely high powered rifles. You're talking either magnum or anti material rifles. .338 Lapua mag or .300 win mag could be called high power .416 cheytach or .50bmg would also both qualify. But it's meaningless to a layman. Just like assault rifle. No one understands guns, or wants to listen to anyone who does because it's Greek. Ban the thing is their response. Look how they responded to the CA judge who bothered explaining
Just a counter point to the polling about people being happy about someone's death, last year in PBS News Hour/Marist Poll said that 28 % of Republicans agree that Americans may have to resort to violence in order to get the country back on track. Only 12% of Democrats willing to say that violence may be necessary to get the country back on track, yet the violence towards the left is dismissed, not seen as anything that requires everyone to pull back on the reins and to ratchet down the rhetoric, at least not from the right to self-regulate where it's still copacetic to cosplay as warriors in the oncoming civil war. If those on the left were to express anything close to that tolerance of political violence they would memory holed instantly.
Charlie Kirk contributed to this permission structure with explaining away why political violence happened, even arguing that only the right wing were getting unfairly punished, rather than unequivocally condemning violence regardless of the motivation or partisanship, he consistently equivocated and justified right wing political violence. Tamp down the rhetoric, acknowledge past mistakes, and allow only those who without reservation or caveat condemn all political violence to be heard in polite society.
Justin may have genuine desire that regardless of whom would be killed (Hasan or Nick Fuentes), then reading the list from Mehdi Hasan, then referring to Melissa Hortman assassination, all should have the same universal condemnation -- but the list that Mehdi Hasan had was demonstration that none of the political violence from the right had been universally condemn. Rep. Nancy Mace was disgusted when she was asked about the Melissa Hortman as if the killing of an Democratic elected official didn't matter like that of a online political personality on her side. Trump called on all flags to be flown at half mast until September 13th, but when it was Democratic elected officials, Either State Senator Hortman or President Jimmy Carter Trump wanted flags flown at full mast.
It is not equivalent to compare Steve Scalise attempted assassination by a self identified Sanders supporter that had Sanders unequivocally condemn that and all political violence, but there is not uniform universal condemnation when the target of violence is anyone on the left. Paul Pelosi gets made fun of by Donald Trump Jr, and no one reprimands and shuns him for his gallows humor -- just libs not able to take a joke. But if there is not sufficient of condemnation from the left, then they are blamed for any political violence towards Republicans; if violence is targeted towards Democrats it's dismissed by the right or mocked.
Justin you may wish that a response to political violence would universal, but there is a precedent of partisanship as to what is the acceptable response. Trump would never meet your ideal of similar response if violence befell anyone that was less than supportive, and I believe he is psychologically incapable of empathy towards his political adversaries but most of the Republican Party elected officials and media personalities are taking their cue from Trump therefore would not dare offend Trump by making expectations known that he should show the same respect to those on the left.
Why isn't this outside the 'mainstream thought' if the victim of violence is on the right, but reflexively violence with victims on the left is?
No your ideology is pure evil . You stir up your base to try to start a war without a single shred of evidence. Right wing media all were shouting WAR WAR WAR.. All the right wing influencers were screaming WAR WAR WAR. Your criminal pedo president was screaming
without a single piece of evidence trying to stir up more hatred towards a demographic that had nothing to do with this “ violent radical left “ another lie just to create hate towards start a war without evidence just as he blew up 11 people in a Venezuelan boat slaughtering 11 people with out evidence. Kill em all right ? Your ideology is evil you are evil and you need to be exiled. Unless America figures this out sooner or later the rest of americas children will be being killed as well. Thoughts and prayers.
is AOC implying that gun control would've stopped this murder? it was a bolt action hunting rifle.... literally been shooting one since I was 13. Everyone calling it a high powered rifle is spreading misinformation. I mean I guess relative to an AR15 it's high powered, but traditionally they'd call it a full size rifle cartridge.
I'm not gun guy myself, but never understood how the rifle could be high or low power, because the bullet doesn't magically get extra push from the rifle, either all the force is in the shell when it is fired or it's not.
There are most definitely high powered rifles. You're talking either magnum or anti material rifles. .338 Lapua mag or .300 win mag could be called high power .416 cheytach or .50bmg would also both qualify. But it's meaningless to a layman. Just like assault rifle. No one understands guns, or wants to listen to anyone who does because it's Greek. Ban the thing is their response. Look how they responded to the CA judge who bothered explaining
Well said, Justin.
Republicans are awful and Charlie fought for his death. Trump’s fake bloodied ear
Just a counter point to the polling about people being happy about someone's death, last year in PBS News Hour/Marist Poll said that 28 % of Republicans agree that Americans may have to resort to violence in order to get the country back on track. Only 12% of Democrats willing to say that violence may be necessary to get the country back on track, yet the violence towards the left is dismissed, not seen as anything that requires everyone to pull back on the reins and to ratchet down the rhetoric, at least not from the right to self-regulate where it's still copacetic to cosplay as warriors in the oncoming civil war. If those on the left were to express anything close to that tolerance of political violence they would memory holed instantly.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/1-in-5-americans-think-violence-may-solve-u-s-divisions-poll-finds
Charlie Kirk contributed to this permission structure with explaining away why political violence happened, even arguing that only the right wing were getting unfairly punished, rather than unequivocally condemning violence regardless of the motivation or partisanship, he consistently equivocated and justified right wing political violence. Tamp down the rhetoric, acknowledge past mistakes, and allow only those who without reservation or caveat condemn all political violence to be heard in polite society.
https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-i-was-getting-500-emails-minute-calling-civil-war
Justin may have genuine desire that regardless of whom would be killed (Hasan or Nick Fuentes), then reading the list from Mehdi Hasan, then referring to Melissa Hortman assassination, all should have the same universal condemnation -- but the list that Mehdi Hasan had was demonstration that none of the political violence from the right had been universally condemn. Rep. Nancy Mace was disgusted when she was asked about the Melissa Hortman as if the killing of an Democratic elected official didn't matter like that of a online political personality on her side. Trump called on all flags to be flown at half mast until September 13th, but when it was Democratic elected officials, Either State Senator Hortman or President Jimmy Carter Trump wanted flags flown at full mast.
It is not equivalent to compare Steve Scalise attempted assassination by a self identified Sanders supporter that had Sanders unequivocally condemn that and all political violence, but there is not uniform universal condemnation when the target of violence is anyone on the left. Paul Pelosi gets made fun of by Donald Trump Jr, and no one reprimands and shuns him for his gallows humor -- just libs not able to take a joke. But if there is not sufficient of condemnation from the left, then they are blamed for any political violence towards Republicans; if violence is targeted towards Democrats it's dismissed by the right or mocked.
Justin you may wish that a response to political violence would universal, but there is a precedent of partisanship as to what is the acceptable response. Trump would never meet your ideal of similar response if violence befell anyone that was less than supportive, and I believe he is psychologically incapable of empathy towards his political adversaries but most of the Republican Party elected officials and media personalities are taking their cue from Trump therefore would not dare offend Trump by making expectations known that he should show the same respect to those on the left.
Why isn't this outside the 'mainstream thought' if the victim of violence is on the right, but reflexively violence with victims on the left is?
You want to commit ourselves to free speech as long as it’s spewing hate? Gotcha
No your ideology is pure evil . You stir up your base to try to start a war without a single shred of evidence. Right wing media all were shouting WAR WAR WAR.. All the right wing influencers were screaming WAR WAR WAR. Your criminal pedo president was screaming
without a single piece of evidence trying to stir up more hatred towards a demographic that had nothing to do with this “ violent radical left “ another lie just to create hate towards start a war without evidence just as he blew up 11 people in a Venezuelan boat slaughtering 11 people with out evidence. Kill em all right ? Your ideology is evil you are evil and you need to be exiled. Unless America figures this out sooner or later the rest of americas children will be being killed as well. Thoughts and prayers.
Trump should be in that bunch