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KMD42's avatar

The Endangerment Act rollback reminded me about Project 2025. It's it now more or less accepted on the right that, yes, indeed the blueprint from project 2025 is being pushed through by this administration? When I search on conservative forums I mostly just find the old stuff from a year ago with arguments that it's fear mongering and won't come to pass.. No recent conversation. When I look for updated information on what from the 900 page project 2025 blueprint has been enacted in some form, about 50% of it has already come to fruition.

So, were the people on the left who were concerned about this right to be concerned?

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Sean's avatar

The right has conspiracy theories, while the left tends to have observations of patterns of behavior. Alex Jones has made a career of fearmongering that jackbooted bureaucratic thugs will come and take guns away from God fearing white Christians for 30+ years, the left point out that the wealthy and well connected are consolidating economic and political power and are told that anything else is against the will of the divine market through its equivalent of the holy spirit the "invisible hand". Every other wealthy nation has figured out how to provide universal health care for their citizens, yet the base of the Democratic Party is treated as if they are asking for a unicorn when asking for anything that curtails profit maximization from the unnecessary industry.

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Dan Turrentine could have said that the polls in June show that Mamdani couldn't win the primary without the rank choice balloting, yet the actual votes showed otherwise. The primary election was the biggest turnout of any Democratic mayoral primary the city has ever had, AOC has an general election GOTV that created coattails for Hochul in 2022, and despite a downturn of votes for Democrats on presidential line AOC outperformed Harris getting that Trump/Ocasio-Cortez voter last year. It is just as plausible that running away from the message that the public servants should be serving the public and that the government is supposed to be providing services to the people will cause losses in those purple districts of Republican-lite versus actual Republicans.

Imagine, if you will, that Kathleen Rice tries to recapture her seat by bashing Mamdani, wouldn't the electorate just stick with the Republican who is an incumbent and more forceful in bashing of Mamdani - when that deeply flawed strategy fails the blame will be on Mamdani by the political consultancy class and not the actual failed message. Turrentine might very well reject his thinking was flawed no matter the outcome of those purple districts unless the Democratic challengers used pinko messaging that Mamdani is using and outperforms polls and previous elections - but the political consultancy class has all the incentive to lose their way rather than win with economic populist message. The consultants won't get a paycheck for delivering material gains to the American people.

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Polling came out that shows Mamdani winning 50% in a 5 way race and 62% in a heads up race against Adams alone, so would it make sense to runaway from Mamdani's popular stances like Turrentine is advocating for?

https://imgur.com/a/YnXz0cH

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William's avatar

That was a pretty strong Dan Carlin impression, sir. Good episode as always.

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